Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Aragorn's speed and skill would indeed be the key to him taking Jaime down, and his far superior battle experience would make it very hard for Jaime to gain an upper hand. Jaime would beat Aragorn in single combat according to George R.R Martin. Aragorn. But Jaime Lannister is one of the best ever. Had the events that would mark him as The Kingslayer not occurred, he may have become the best fighter in all of Westeros. His incredible skill with a sword is quite instrumental to his character. You know that plate mail was invented to protect against crossbow bolts right? The very fact that AOSIAF has plate armor indicates greater level of metallurgy than LOTR. Giving Aragorn even more of an advantage due to the fact chainmail is just as effective against swords as platemail. "The things I do for love. I think boromir vs Jaime would be more interesting. Jaime is peak human at best. What a reach. There is no clear definition of how good aragorn is, while Jaime is clearly spelled out as one of the best. Aragorn successfully fighting Nazguls: And that means absolutely nothing since he said book versions of both. I've got to go with Aragorn as well.unless your talking about the Kingslayer from the books. Aragorn is far past peak human, creeping toward meta human, with two lifetimes of combat experience. Lannister is good but with that many years of experience I don't see him beating Aragorn. Kingslayer (Jamie Lannister) vs Aragorn 86 results 1 2 #1 Edited By CapitolPunishment Lord Tywin Lannister believes its time for a change of 1st high King of the Reunited Kingdom. No it's not good enough for me because the materials going into the making of the armor are not taken into account. This is my opinion of how it plays out: Aragorn II Elessar at 87 is crowned King of Arnor and Gondor, he decides to conquer the Seven Kingdoms and bring order, he bids his wife goodbye and goes. Aragorn vs Jaime Lannister. His incredible skill with a sword is quite instrumental to his character. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Aragorn has Numenor blood, which gives him incredible power. Everything about him boils down to assumption and theory. Because, I have yet to see him face the caliber of adversary, or fight in battles of the same magnitude, as Aragorn. Although Aragorn is much older, that doesn't mean Jaime is low on experience. His entire life was full of conflict and victories, and so he undoubtedly has the skill to stand againstJaime Lannister. As arguably the best living swordsmen, Ser Arthur Dayne and Barristan Selmy each commended his skill. Even if he reached the peak of what a human fighter is capable of, Aragorn is naturally faster and stronger while wielding a blade at the end of the day. He was one of the best, but Selmy could have most likely defeated him, though with effort, maybe Drogo, arguably, but it'd be a close match and would probably be determined by luck. Actually, he's been up front about his characters chances if paired against LOTR characters. No we don't know what Rangers are capable of, we are only shown what Aragorn is capable of. Being able to run for 3 days isn't going to help you much if you're fighting a more skilled opponent. With such a disadvantage he was still more than a match for an excellent swordsman, imagine if he'd been in a heathly state at the time. Jaime (Prime, both hands) vs RoTK Aragorn Who is the better swordsman - in both the book and movie versions of their respective series? It's mentioned at least twice in the books, but I guess that is nitpicking too, huh? Nothing else really needs to be said. Sorry Jaime, you'd give him a good fight, but you'd loose. I would agree, but recently I read an extensive post on Reddit. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Jamie=Kingslayer. "Significantly above peak human level" Really, when did they discuss this in the books? What Happened to Faramir After The Lord of the Rings? He didn't really fight the Nazguls, he just surprised them and drove them off with fire. Again, I don't know of any reference to super/metahuman attributes and I've read pretty much all Tolkien has to offer (i'd be open to the suggetion though) Tolkien was always quite vauge with these things. It's likely that it was just a normal sword, and the only time Elfs dealt with it was when they reforged it. In The Lord of the Rings, however, we see Aragorn ride into several real battles and face numerous foes and come out unscathed. Does Jaime get both hands? But, it would seem that his accomplishments -- not Aragorn's -- are the ones that are lacking. You disregarding that Andril came from elven forged steel and was born from the blade that severed the fingers off Sauron's hand while Lannister has nothing noteworthy for a weapon other than a well made sword is nitpicking? Come on guys. That's called being logical. It would be a good bit closer. aragorn btn thrones karakterlerinin canna sar. I call it being logical. He is also descended from a legendary race of Man -- his bloodline is evident when one considers that during the events of The Lord of the Rings, he is already over 80 years of age. That's how tolkien writes though, it's mythos, couldn't be more different to GOT really so comparing feats is a bit unfair. Magis sword trumps non-magic sword. It's good to wear armor if you're fighting with sharp pieces of metal.". Poking fun atAragorn,Martin says, "Armor was invented for a reason. In contrast I can't recall any mention of Aragorns prowess with a blade. He can fight all of the Nazgul at the same time and kill dozens of Uruk-hai, all of them bigger and stronger than any soldier Jaime ever killed. Book Aragorn is still a numenor, so I'm pretty sure he's superhuman by our standards. Brienne of Tarth was an excellent swordsman as well, and she could barely hold Jaime off while he was weakened from a long dungeon stay, malnourished, and had his hands bound. Book Jaime is no joke, Aragorn would be toast because lets face it, what did Aragorn really do? Unless i'm mistaken Aragorn took down a troll at the battle of Minas Tirith(in the books) so that shows some pretty good sword play considering the size of them. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. He is one of the best swordsman in all Westeros, maybe not up to the legends like Ser Barristan Selmy but definitely on par with the likes of Sandor Clegane or Robert Baratheon. . Postcard from beyond the wall (Saw on FB). Let's just say that he's renowned as the best swordsman there is. But Brienne is not in the upper echelon of fighters. If you want, I'll PM you the rants in question. TaintedScholar_of_Midgard 7.2e+82 spells per day. And, others heap praise on his ability, as they should. Thankfully for him, everyone else is just as shit in the movie. I would prefer to see Boromir vs Ned Stark. You don't happen to have a link? White walkers are no simple human either, still one was killed by a Sam. That was against a woman. Tolkien is vauge about this though (deliberatley so I think). Also, at the time, he was a villian. It's hard to explain without spoiling things. Posts outside the content scope are removed. Aragorn all the way. Take his fight with Brienne, for example. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. He's like 80+ or something by the time of Fellowship. Considering that Ser Selmy is the Captain of the Kingsguard, that is high praise indeed. We're not talking about Warcraft which can allow such retarded anachronisms to occur here. it is purposedly done by Martin to make the loss of his sword hand in a later book such a crisis of character for the Kingslayer. He would probably take out Jaime as well. Rpondre. There are no knights. He even goes on to say Smaug would defeat most of his dragons, despite being smaller than most of them once full grown, due to Smaug having human intelligence. It's also why the match-up is so heated becauseit's difficult to find aclear victor. I never How did the ultra deadly Jaqen H'ghar get captured in the What was the worst advice Tyrion gave Daenerys? Aragorn wins this fight 9 times out of 10. That is all. You are using an out of date browser. it is purposedly done by Martin to make the loss of his sword hand in a later book such a crisis of character for the Kingslayer. GERALT - 0:18ARAGORN - 2:48FIGHT BREAKDOWN - 5:00FOLLOW ME!- INSTAGRAM - https://www.instagram.com/danielturner_danco/Now both Geralt and Aragorn are two of . You should've added a "(lol)" to other scenarios as well, Aragorn slices him in half in every single one of them. With taking courses involving film, Ben has extensive knowledge of movies both new and old, and keeps up to date on all the latest goings-on in the film industry. Jaime Lannister is, admittedly, a gifted and immensely talented swordsman. And if Jaime were to strike just one heavy blow on Aragorn, it could possiblyleave a lethal wound. No matter which franchise is preferred, there's no denying each swordsman's skill, as both of them rank as one of the top fighters of their respective franchises. Whilethis gives Aragornthe upper hand, his natural-born advantage doesn't necessarily equate to skill. Lord Tywin Lannister believes its time for a change of 1st high King of the Reunited Kingdom. Book versions of both, I used the movie pictures to give them a face. Aragorn would fuck Jaime up. Of all the popular match-ups in the fantasy world, The Lord of the Rings' Aragorn facingGame of Thrones'Jaime Lannister is among the most talked about. As of the newest book, Sir Barristan Selmy states that someone is the best natural swordsman he has seen since Jaime Lannister, which strongly implies that the famous and very skilled Selmy who claimed he could kill all the other Kingsguard (Jaime was absent) with ease rates Jaime as the best sword in Westeros at the time of the books. edit: debuffsz tek att :) jaime lannister'in dizide kl ustaln ok grmedik ama kitaplarnda felaket iyi bir sava diye bahsediliyordu. That's fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwRix1p9sDY. Hence, the importance of the individual skills of the knights were more elaborated. This wolud be a huge factor in this fight. So since there is at LEAST that difference between our world and the other two, you are totally assuming there are no other differences at play. Not to mention his reputation for fighting is known all over the land. Aragorn. If he had access to a Valerian steel sword, possibly you would have a point. Not to mention the guy lived for 210 years before dying so depending on which version, the Kingslayer could be fighting a guy with more than 100 years of combat experience. 1 2 3. I don't recall any fight with Ringwraiths other than the one on Weathertop, and that was hardly a real fight. Jaime doesn't have enough feats to put him at Aragorn's levels. Quite useful skill, don't you think? Add to that his numerous tourney victories, and the tales of his exploits in previous campaigns, it illustrates quite clearly that Jaime is one of, if not the best swordsman in the GoT's world. No, we don't need to guess because we know that it gives him greatly increase stamina - he run for three days without rest, withouth food and water and he wasn't even tired after that. He's 80 something years old and still in his prime, was trained by the elves, owns a mythical uber sword, and has done nothing but fight and survive his entire life. People are going to naturally say Aragorn, even though he has virtually no feats, and his skill with a blade is never discussed. Look where you are asking dude haha. "Rangers skills and sword mastery" We never see any other ranger so it's impossible to gauge what this actually means. Aragorn wins no less than a solid majority, but it's not easy, as they are both exceedingly talented. You are using an out of date browser. Jaime also managed to successfully fight Brienne of Tarth all while being bound and starving as her prisoner. Man, I really need to start reading Game of Thrones and re-read LOTR. Although royal blood can hold power in Game of Thrones, nothing about Jaime's body is different from any other person. They don't possess great skill with a blade by any stretch of the imagination. The fact that Aragorn doesn't go through the books breaking other swords and shields willy nilly suggests that Anduril is not as powerful as you make it to be. Dunno about book Jamie but unless he can fight for a night without tiring he to gets stomped I was going by the literary version in my post. That good enough for you? KEEP READING: Lord of the Rings: Why Russell Crowe Turned Down the Aragorn Role. Meanwhile, one precise strike at Aragorn's vitals could be all it takes to win. Is that some nickname for the King of Gondor? Especially within his favourite franchises, such as Star Wars. Again you gloss over my point that the very presence of plate indicates a greater knowledge of metallurgy. They made plate mail to sacrifice speed, maneuverability and agility (as its much heavier) in exchange for defense against high powered ranged weapons. We have three main rules. Al'Lan Mandragoran would take them both at the same time. Tell this to any Batman fan and he would eat you alive. Jaime's skill paired with his armor means he could stand his ground for a long while and take a good amount of hits before going down. The only thing we really have to get a sense of Aragorns skill is the foes he's faced, everything else is irrelavent. So, Jaime can have his tournament wins. Therefore you are guessing that one armor is better because of how they resemble what our medieval equipment was like. JavaScript is disabled. Aragorn hands down, you want to make it a challenge for both and have a good show: Aragorn vs Barristan Selmy. Did any of you guys read LOTR instead of just watching the movies? He engages in battle with the Ma Jaime, pre ASOS has no honor, and in a battle, that could actually be a good thing. With the loss of his great skill, he must redefine himself completely. Jaime Lannister Vs Aragorn Thread starter Greedy master; Start date Jun 5, 2013; Status Not open for further replies. Aragon is proficient, Jaime is the best of its time. Uruk-Hai are nothing special, their fighting technique consists of being strong and hacking at things with a sword. http://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/1dn0rn/jaime_lannistergame_of_thones_v_aragornlotr/. The only thing we really have to get a sense of Aragorns skill is the foes he's faced, everything else is irrelavent. You have nothing to back your claim that kingslayer has an equipment advantage. According to the source material, who was the better What do you think had happened to Daario Naharis since My brother is watching The Rains of Castamere later today Press J to jump to the feed. He played Satan in "Prophecy.". To the death!!! The only things that are going to matter in this fight are skill with a blade, and endurance. All we have is theory and guesswork. Why do you keep bringing up tracking, knowledge about herbs and other crap that doesn't apply to this fight. It's hard to explain without spoiling things. I pick Jaime every time. I have a funny quote (my own idea) While Jaime and Aragorn is busy fighting each other in the random location- until Jaime suddenly stops. Well movie/show fighting tends to be godawful, but Aragorn did impressively deflect a dagger heading straight for his face like a jedi (which ironically was entirely real, accidental, and not choreographed but depended on Vigo's reflexes saving him from Lurtz's actor's bad throw). Throughout the courses, he has worked on a number of short films and documentaries. And found that his passion lays in scriptwriting, where he can combine his love of movies, writing, and storytelling. [SPOILERS book J] COTF have to bring a ring to the Doom of Valyria. But, what would you say is Jaime's best feat? As a descendant of Nmenor, an ancient and powerful race of men, Aragorn has the gift of increased strength, wisdom and life. . Elros and Elrond were given a choice of which race they would live with (adopting the resulting life span and traits, etc). You can't base the skills of an entire group off what you see from one guy. The only real reason people are saying Aragorn would win is because he was the good guy in his story, and Jaime Lanister is a D-Bag. Aragorn definitelyhas experience on his side,being the age of 87 duringThe Lord of the Rings. Boromir would be a better match, and even then stomps Jaime Lannister. what were aragorn's stats again? In earlier books he is a much different hand to hand combatant than in later books. He's also 88 and still going strong, a swordsman beyond compare, and a general badass. Such as running for three days/nights without stopping, Were'nt they also being pushed back by Saruman's invisible force that was being used to slow them down?[/QUOTE]. As for Anduril's qualities, what you just listed is better than anything Jamie ever did with any specific sword, so again, any equipment advantage mentioned in books goes to Aragorn's sword, not Jamie's armor. You must log in or register to reply here. No one is saying BookAragorn is an average fighter; he's pretty much exceptional, even more with Andril. At one point he is in a very weakened state with his hands bound and he fights another expert swordsman, later the person he was fighting admits they could barely hold there own against him. Considering that Ser Selmy is the Captain of the Kingsguard, that is high praise indeed. But yes, they do address that particular feat. The only instance I can recall of Anduril doing anything uber is cleaving an orc's helmet in half, which is impressive, but I don't think it's that impressive to give him any edge. If Jamie is wearing plate mail and Aragorn is wearing chain then Aragorn has a big advantage as chainmail is lighter, more maneuverable and blocks sword blows just as well as plate. - Page 3 In the end, while Jaime is considered to be one of the great swordsmen in Westeros, Aragorn is considered to be the greatest Man in all of Middle-Earth. To me, Aragorn is just sheer force of will; you're not breaking him, and i'm not sure it's relevant that he's Nmenoreon other than it's made it possible for him to accumulate so much experience. dedekorkut46. DCs Grossest Power Ring Is Terrifyingly Strong - But Where Did It Go? Prove that Jamie is better fencer than Aragorn. Yes thats right- he started the line of Numenoreon kings. Movie Aragorn, while showing superhuman feats, is a very bad swordsman. Besides, I think Tolkien can be quite hyperbolic with things like that; his, strength of character, etc, was above that of most men, I think that was more. The most relative thing in this fight is from what book is Jamie coming from. Lord of the Rings' Aragorn and GOT's Jaime Lannister are among the best swordsmen in each of their franchises, but which one would win in a fight? Yea I read them it wouldnt even be a fight. New Movie News, Movie Trailers & upcoming Movie Reviews, Evil Dead Rise Could Change the Franchise's Rules Forever. Ah, in a duel Jaime would eat the Gondor's coupist quickly, even left handed. Throughout his life, he hunted and attacked allies of Sauron and even led a siege on the city of Umbar, which stood with the forces of Mordor. When debating this match-up, the most common argument made for Aragorn's victory is his bloodline. Something else to consider. For The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Aragorn and Jaime Lannister vs Geralt" - Page 6. Numenorean genetics. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. He has a few that are really good, but Aragorn has ten times as many that are just as impressive. If any of you have read the silmarillion you'll know that there where some elf and human heros from the first age that make aragorn, and pretty much all the LOTR charcaters, look dilluted and far less powerful. Actualiser. Basically, due to their superhuman abilities, the main LOTR characters would wreck shop. I don't know if I agree, but it was an interesting perspective nonetheless. Now, I don't mean to belittle this accomplishment since the very fact that he was maimed makes it impressive. There is nothing, yet, to suggest that she is. Aragorn was one of the Rangers of the North, so he have vast knowledge about stealth, tracking and healing herbs. Stealth is no useful in combat? Aragorn is just cruel. Jaime is a foe who has extensively studied the blade and is said by many characters to be extremely skilled. 6. Martin writes as Malory wrote Le Morte D'Arthur More about Knights.. More about kings. Most of Jaime's sword fighting ability is implied by the dialogue from the characters, not as much by what he actually does in the books. It is stated in the books that Aragorn is not a simple human. That's exactly my point, Tolkien didn't give us much of anything to gauge his skill with. JavaScript is disabled. Argumentez Round 1: film Aragorn vs. film Jaime Round 2: film Aragorn vs. book Jaime Round 3: book Aragorn vs. book Jaime (lol) No Narsil. And on the point of Anduril, hey if you're going that route, how about you quantify the properties of Sauron's hand? In his spare time, Ben is usually watching movies, playing games and running D&D games for friends (and hopes to one day actually be a player). Because of the Numenor blood, he's faster, stronger, more resilient and can live longer than any other man. You're right that much of the debate surrounding Aragorn rests on assumptions and theories. He sends his son Kingslayer aka Jamie Lannister to go in at night and kill Aragorn in his sleep. Ser Selmy at one point talks of Jaime being the best natural swordsman that he's ever seen. When he opens the door Aragorn is standing there in full armor with Andril in handand battle begins. He beat the freaken mouth of Sauron in a staring contest. This was shown in a movies and books: like I said stealth, tracking, knowledge about herbs also archery. He have blood of Nmenor in him, so he is above what would we call peak human - he aged vastly slower than normal man ( when he fought in the War for the ring he was 88 years old, he have incredible endurance and stamina: once he run for three days and nights without sleep, food and water, and yet he wasn't tired. 88 years of experience, stamina: significantly above peak human level, Rangers skills and sword mastery. Imagine Aragorn vs. a single goblin, or a single orc, or a single Urak-hai. Aragorn as an old man can probably man-handle peak Jamie. Besides, both Tolkien and Martin are pedantically consistent about their worlds, and they both match the periods they were based on pretty good. Wasn't Aragorn the descendant of Elros Tar-Minyatur (Elrond's twin brother) in the book? Selmy and Dayne are even greater. Follow the spoiler policy. For those who don't know in the LOTR books leaders like Aragorn have the power to inspire others, push back dark will, and fight better, in Aragorn's case this comes from his kingly blood. It's hard to calculate his swordsmanship. Le grand Aragorn ne peut pas perdre contre un pseudo chevalier incestueux. Jaime Lannister Aragorn'dan yi Bir Silahr m?-13 yanda bir turnuva kavgasn kazand.-15 yanda Glmseyen valye ile vs att.-15 yanda Arthur Dayne tarafndan valye ilan edildi.-15 yanda Gerold Hightower tarafndan kral muhafz yapld ve en gen kral muhafz oldu. Let's not forget that your elven forged steel broke when someone fell on it.
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