Knowing is half the battle. Like the pinball 8 red coins. An ambitious one, but still one that could never hope to reach the same heights of greatness. Its buggy, the controls are ass, and some shines are just NOT fun at all. I don't exactly need to go back to play it to remember all that. You will get better at this in time. You Guys Are The BEST!-----. Geralt is here to give you guys some friendly advice, My Charcoal Drawing of Kratos - Work in Progress. Still the camera is without a doubt the weak point of Mario 64. I watched all the videos this morning, laughing at how ridiculous it looked. Galaxy is subjectively the better game anyways. I remember the first game I played on the Gamecube, Luigi's Mansion. Those are true nightmares. That makes Super Mario Sunshine even more indispensable to any GameCube owner's library. But I will defend that bongo game till I die. @mariomaster96 It wasn't perfect when it was brand new. Privacy Policy. A great game, I dont know what people are moaning about. Pianta Throwers [1] are a variant of Piantas in Super Mario Sunshine. Smh. For Nintendo Wii on the Wii, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Super Mario Sunshine is an intensely frustrating game." - Page 4. LOL, I was getting tilted at this game LONG before it EVER was NintendoLife-worthy news. Of course it is not perfect, but it is not as bad as most people make it sound. To use a metaphor: Im sure I thought breast milk was delicious when I was a baby and it helped with my growth and development, but Id balk and refuse if you tried to serve me some for dinner now haha. Even back when I was little and unable to beat the game, the sand bird has never given me any trouble. Read all these comments and we can know why nintendo is so lazy, So either these players just suck or encounter glitches well aside from Noki Bay, that indeed be a frustrating levelif it weren't for the delightful music, @Ratking Can't wait for 2021 when people discover that things didn't go the way they hope it be. Touching on my admiration from earlier, Super Mario Sunshine feels like a misplaced piece of experimentation from Nintendo. @Shadowmask the best ever Elder Scrolls bug was if you told the Kajiit Thieves Guild captain you werent ready for a job at the moment that was it, the questline can not ever be resumed (Oblivion). @HobbitGamer I guess we arent all as good at this game as you are. I love this game Never found a glitch on the cube, gonna try this one ASAP. Im just trying to stand on this nail! An early level has you navigating a shipyard by jumping across a series of precariously thin platforms. Frustrating means of artificial difficulty such as unpolished physics and excessive bugs are not a good way to be challenged. Now i'll just stick to 64 and Galaxy, which were always much better games anyway. I haven't played it since the gamecube was new so I am looking forward to playing it again just to see if my opinion has changed. . Sep 21, 2020. hopefully, Nintendo will fix these glitches. Sunshine is a buggy, hot mess of a game. Im sorry, at least you showed that Mario can rock short sleeves like nobody else on Isle Delfino, now please excuse me while I hurl FLUDD into a trash compactor. @V_Va yeah but is it miyamotos fault that it was rushed or it didn't get improved? I consider Mario Sunshine to be the Sonic Adventure of the Mario series (not just cause of bugs, but the hub world, the FMV cut scenes with voice acting, the shadow Mario story etc) Nintendo was definitely influenced by it. I beat Super Mario Sunshine half a year ago, and these are some of the stars that I remember being frustrating for me: 1. You played 64 yet? That and the lilypad red coin thingie where you need Yoshi to ride on boats just to reach it. newer generations should play the classics before playing anything newer so they can show some respect lol, Hahahahah way too funny!!! Pianta Throwers will usually toss Mario after he speaks to them. For the first few beginning I loved it! Sure it started out challenging but imo Odyssey is way too easy. @JayJ I'd like 64 more if the camera wasn't such a motion sickness-inducing nightmare, now i remember how frustatred i was in the Pachinko. He's a great character in theory, but in practice the water machine is so frustrating. Somebody's having a round of drinks somewhere in the world. Good gods. In fact, it really . Super Mario Galaxy was the true successor to Super Mario 64. Thats why you tray again. Sunshine just made me realize how empty and linear Galaxy games were. The underground joints in the back half of Mario 1 are infamous, as are the GIANT MURDER DRILLS FROM THE CEILING in the Wii days. Better not save after that. How the actual f are people getting frustrated by Sunshine but not 64? The music was awesome. @Crono1973 When you make a mistake it takes forever to get back to where you were. This is true for both 64 and Sunshine. In his own dedicated game, FLUDD would have been fantastic, but hes combined with traditional platforming in a way that always feels like an obstacle to Sunshines potential greatness. The game is still far from perfect- the platforming can be frustrating at times and some of the missions still aren't very fun- but I definitely like the game overall more now than when I first played it. Eh? Omg..the game was made in 2002. Mario 64 was an undeniable masterpiece, and remains as much today, so following up a game of that magnitude was always going to end in disaster. It's basically just runing and jumping. The one spark that keeps my on Sunshine is the satisfaction of finnaly beating that one level to increase in the story line. Those bugs were made on purpose just to remind you how much you paid the collection. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I still suck at the controls of that game. Going from Sunshine to Galaxy feels like such a huge upgrade to the movement accuracy. Super Mario Sunshine can be frustrating.. At first when I got Super Mario All Stars, my first thought was to hop straight on to Super Mario Galaxy since I have not played it in a decade. HAVING TO REENTER THE ENTIRE LEVEL INSTEAD OF BEING TAKEN BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE LEVEL IS INFURIATING! It's a rough game, collision and physics are weird, the camera can be pretty bad, many shines can be really frustrating. But yeah, the frustration in the game requiring precise movements a lot of the time, combined with not having precise controls made for a less than enjoyable experience. This. I've played Sonic DX more than Sunshine but I know I've never clipped through the ground on any of them. @mariomaster96 Miyamoto retire is a dumb reaction to Sunshine, assuming its sincere - but I suspect its tongue-in-cheek. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. <3. @PipeGuy64Bit I think I'm just going to skip Sunshine lol. @ferroreo i love a challenge too but to meet a challenge the controls have to be well executed .. and they are not. You find mario sunshine frustrating because it is frustrating. Smh. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The music, aesthetic, and levels that are fun (about 60%) are what make this game one of my favorites of all time. And its.quite horrible. I only 100% games i enjoy, and i cant see this game getting old. I came in knowing about all the quirks and the improved camera (though still a tad flawed) helped a load. Now I realize, words don't sound too much like a joke when in lowercase. Galaxy has been good but a bit underwhelming until now. And I'd argue the best 3D Mario game in general, including Odyssey and 3D World. @PipeGuy64Bit so is it like Mario 64 where you can skip stars in a world and go straight to the 7th, or do I have to slog through the first six? Sunshine is remarkably easy. Mario Sunshine is a mediocre, half-assed video game shoved out the door prematurely because the Gamecube needed games. Nintendo seriously F-Ed up with this one. A year and a half in development probably wasn't long enough. It's still my least favorite of the 3D games largely due to the insanely frustrating moments and those dumb blue coins. Thats the point of mario games there not always easy.. @ferroreo I don't think gamers have that much of a problem with hard games like Cuphead, Bloodstained, or Deadcells I just think they like games that are a little(or a lot I quit the game half-way through to play galaxy) buggy and tedious like sunshine. Also, don't get me started on getting all of the shine sprites, which isn't even worth it..likeat alltrust me Also a bit off-topic but will Ninteno ever release the OST to the game at all? Became one of the most non-fun Mario experiences ever back then. The camera means that knowing where you are going to land when flying through the air is never especially clear, and random enemies - often found off-screen - can knock you off balance, sending you splashing into the water below in a matter of seconds. Love the FLUDD mechanic, and Ill defend this game forever. Completing something really difficult is the best part of a game and having to learn how to beat the enemies and bosses is the fun part (in Odyssey every boss fight felt nearly identical). I started getting really aggravated with the game being stuck on the same level over and over and getting so far just to die.. One of the ones I hate the most is when you lose FLUDD.. . And i just need a 40-6 Press J to jump to the feed. #SuperMario3DAllStars #SuperMarioSunshineThank You Guys For 200+ Subscribers! 64 felt kinda whatever, as its bad camera angles and weird controls made it annoying. Youll probably moan and say I just didnt master everything it has to offer, but I shouldnt need to have the technical prowess of a speedrunner to enjoy a game that is made for children. Hey. Though I can oddly say that for a lot of games I just never run into bugs. As for the people crying and telling others to retire - games are really made for everyone and no one at the same time what I mean by this is that their design is based around something they think people are going to generally like - at the same time they're not trying to cater to any particular person. What I mainly refer to are certain tasks such as collecting the blue coins, replaying some of the same difficult secret levels over again (the pachinko level, the level with the rotten leaf, or the other secret levels with the rotating blocks) or just using FLUDD for menial cleanup tasks. There's nothing at all wrong with disliking something, trying to get someone to stop because you didn't have the experience you wanted is pretty ridiculous though. The climb to the. I am showing a lot of classic games to my 6-year old and watching him get incredibly frustrated at the difficulty. Especially those sections without FLUDD. Its not because its old. But ohhh boy these controls are a total mess, the camera is a mess, arguably worse than 64. I haven't played in a few years (played when it was first released for gamecube and beat it again maybe 6 years ago or so) so couldn't tell you the buttons but you definitely . It's definitely one of the more challenging Mario titles though! Mario 64 has been way more frustrating and without any bugs. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. I was going to put a description but I thought it would be funnier to just post a picture of the pachinko game. I always wanted to play Sunshine, the one Mario I never played. Ive seen plenty of comments here complaining about some of my favourite games. 1,440 Oct 20, 2020 #1 I'm talking about the ones where they rudely take the water pack away from you. Acknowledging Sunshines flaws is totally reasonable, though. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. They want to just breeze through. Have these people ever played one? I f$&#-$ing hate this game. Super Mario Sunshine. It gets old, honestly. Its soooooooooooooooooooooooooo Hard (That what she said). I like Sunshine, I think it's fun but I would not hesitate to bring it up to defend 3d Sonic games (before they were boost to win games of course), it's the player not the game. It has players climb up behind a Ferris wheel using grates that can be flipped to make a pathway. Galaxy, however, is sublime and continues to hold up to this day. The utmost accuracy required to accomplish some of the games trickier sections are continually trifled with an awful camera system and a combination of mechanical systems that just dont gel together. But I still love 'em. Mario Sunshine ,always the same glitchy lovable mess, Oh okay, that's actually where I was trying to rocket to, Random: Switch Owners Are Discovering Just How Frustrating Super Mario Sunshine Can Be, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P4wiTaUSo0, https://www.twitch.tv/rudycthree/clip/SpunkyInterestingTroutOSfrog. While I do still love it, I'm remembering how difficult the controls made it. Honestly - I haven't experienced a ton of glitches. I do like the idea of sunshine with the fludd however and the aesthetics are great but it really is flawed and will still finish the game because i want to. Deleted member 24907 Banned Oct 29, 2017 5,354 Sep 28, 2018 Managed to clip through a wall in Noki bay just by trying to stop myself falling to the bottom. Disappointingly, the camera bogs what are truly good controls and prevents the player from reaching difficult places more easily. It has never been a highlight Mario game for me but I always thought it had some charm. I know Sunshine wasn't received quite as well back in the day (it was really quite different from what many were expecting, especially after those Mario 1000 demos or whatever), so I'm curious if you feel the same way. What I mainly refer It's annoying but I can deal. @Ghostchip No worries, Im like that with Mario 64, Ive beaten it so many times over the years that Ive forgotten all the difficulties I had that first time through the game. I wish I could love it like some do. In Sunshine however there's a whole other system piled on to of it. Child's play compared to the watermelon festival and pachinko levels. Same with Mario 64 at times. But I just don't understand how a kid back then playing it on the GameCube could beat most of the levels. Games have been made easier over time so this isnt a problem also most old Mario games the Japanese versions are harder. Also, for an island theme game, swimming sucks. If Mario Sunshine has a kindred spirit, I'd say it's 1988's Super Mario Bros 2, which until Sunshine's release had remained the sole core entry to be set firmly outside the normal confines . Can understand the frustration. Super Mario Sunshine can be loved a bit more now that's closer to the Mario elements it wanted so desperately to depart from. Super Mario Sunshine is an intensely frustrating game. For Nintendo Wii on the Wii, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Super Mario Sunshine is an intensely frustrating game." - Page 3. When the pump is taken away, youre often thrust into ethereal voids to take on traditional levels that are fiendishly difficult. Some shortcuts eventually surface, but that does little to alleviate the annoyance of landing jumps that the game seems almost designed not to accommodate. It's been 20 years since Mario 's lone platforming title was released on the ill-fated Nintendo Gamecube. Amazing setting, fantastic music, and a real challenge for seasoned gamers. Or it could be just as much of an eyesore and make the other games . Regardless of how I feel about it, Sunshine clearly struck a chord with many whether that be due to nostalgia or a genuine appreciation for everything it manages to achieve. From gaming trends to the latest blockbuster anime, DualShockers keeps you ahead of the curve. In my opinion, 64 and Galaxy have aged better. Starting sunshine was, as you say, better than that. I grew up playing Mario 64 in diapers. They are capable of throwing Mario a good distance behind them or above them. @Minish-Cap lol I was thinking the same thing. But they usually arent Mario ones, so theyre free real estate. Haters gonna hate. https://www.twitch.tv/rudycthree/clip/SpunkyInterestingTroutOSfrog. Who'd've guessed that a game with atrocious voice acting, as well as the two most notorious Mario levels to ever exist would EVER be THIS frustrating? I would have given it another chance, but they ruines it by not even giving an option for the original (inverted y-axis) controls. Miyamoto retire because you jump off too late, and not sure what the problem is when you straight up jump off a platform. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. then if you run out of lives, you're taken back to the center of the plaza. The first one is really scary. Nobody recognized our costumes hopefully the internet does! @ProudGrimleal why? We could 100% then, I dont see what the problem is. Its long been known that it was rushed in order to ensure that it came out during the GameCubes second year, and it shows. The Gamecube is a console of extremes. New Movie News, Movie Trailers & upcoming Movie Reviews. Being taken back to the plaza after you run out of lives, whatever. Thanks to Sequel Difficulty Spike, Super Mario Sunshine has enough of these to make getting 100% Completion the most infamous part of the game, turning an otherwise top-notch Mario experience into a complete nightmare. It evolved upon the stronger elements of Sunshine while casting aside all of the nonsense that either didnt work or actively made the game worse. At 109 stars so far, and the worst I've encountered is when Mario can't decide if he landed on a platform or just missed it, so he dry humps it for a few seconds before either falling off or grabbing the edge. But yes I will still absolutely be playing through the entire game because I love it as much as I hate it. as well as giving us a way to turn them back on for fun. @ferroreo Sure, Sonic '06 is much worse in that regard, but the point is still valid that increasing a game's difficulty level by such artificial means is never a good thing, and I'm talking about the wonky physics just as much as the actual bugs. It does it REALLY well. Super Mario Sunshine is one of my favorite platformers of all time but I can't deny that some parts of are often quite annoying. I get that the controls are easier and defiantly much easier to learn, but the story line just feels really stale as well as the characters and gameplay.. Nintendo Wii Wii Home Games Guides Q&A Cheats Reviews Media Board Topic Archived Page of 6 Next Last You're browsing the GameFAQs. @Crono1973 Nah, I'm trash at games. The controls seem less frustrating- removing the inverted controls while in close mode helps a ton- and the widescreen/higher res display allows the game to look better than ever. On the subject of Body Harvest, though Well, I mean, I loved that game, but I was never under any illusion that it wasn't horribly flawed. How did that make me fall off? @Jmjfrank You unfortunately can only skip episode 1 in Bianco Hills and go straight towards the top of the windmill to fight Petey for the episode 2 shine. I actually think Sunshine fares better in this compilation than the original GC release. In order to even move around the levels, you need to know how the Fludd works. I've always enjoyed sunshine - can say it's by far my favourite mario game out there. Man what a mess. SMS is easily the worst 3D Mario. So this time, it was better for me. I kinda feel bad for a lot of people playing it for the first time after hearing everyone online rave about how great the game was in recent years. Oh, but most of these are because of glitches, I was expecting, watermelon guiding, pachinko, boat waiting levels of frustration. Starting to wonder if this game on its own is even worth 20 bucks @Jmjfrank Just giving you a heads up incase you don't know, the bare minimum is clearing the episode 7 shine in each area which isn't that bad of a task compared to getting 100%. Ok so you die, in a level. This one is called "Shell's secret" I was playing 64 all weekend, so I haven't revisited this yet, but I'm gonna be upset if this version doesn't say "SHINE GET!". Mario uses him to clean up graffiti, blast himself into the air like hes wearing a jetpack, and take on all manner of attachments to jump atop platforms and solve puzzles. just imagine a ton of speed runs of the game with all of the glitches running along side the game working as it should. But the concept and the creativity are super solid and wonderful!
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